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                <title><idno>611</idno>Joseph Patrick McDonnell an Friedrich Engels in London.
                    London, Mittwoch, 18. Oktober 1871</title>
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                        <surname>Lura</surname>
                        <forename>Caroline</forename>
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                        <p>Soweit aus der Fotokopie zu ersehen ist, besteht der Brief aus einem
                            Bogen weißem Papier. McDonnell hat alle vier Seiten vollständig
                            beschrieben (die dritte Seite quer). Schreibmaterial: schwarze
                            Tinte.</p>
                        <p>Archivvermerk oben auf der ersten Seite mit Bleistift: „469“.</p>
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                <opener><dateline sameAs="MBDatumszeile"><pb/> 8 Southboro Terrace, Carlton
                        Grove.<lb/>Peckham. S.E. Oct<hi rendition="#sup">r</hi> 18<hi rendition="#sup">th</hi> 1871</dateline><salute sameAs="MBAnrede">My
                        dear Engels</salute></opener>
                <p rend="MBTextOhneEinzug" style="text-align: justify; "><ref xml:id="bd274f3f-7c7d-44cd-a74f-3f7c7dd4cd09" corresp="#fc23e9bd-5908-4b0a-a3e9-bd59080b0aec" type="editorialNote">I
                            enclose you two letters</ref><note xml:id="fc23e9bd-5908-4b0a-a3e9-bd59080b0aec" corresp="#bd274f3f-7c7d-44cd-a74f-3f7c7dd4cd09" type="editorial">Die Beilagen
                            sind nicht überliefert.</note> – one from <orgName ref="https://megadigital.bbaw.de/M8934832">Figgins</orgName> and the other from <orgName ref="https://megadigital.bbaw.de/M7864850">Stephenson
                        &amp; Blake</orgName>, to whom I wrote for the first time on Monday <expan resp="editor" sameAs="dottet_underline">ev<ex>enin</ex>g</expan>. You will
                    see by Figgins note that they reject the offer I made to them in my letter of
                    saturday last. Indeed they ask more than one or two other type Founders with
                    whom I was in communication, such as <hi rendition="#u"><orgName ref="https://megadigital.bbaw.de/M9333805">Caslon</orgName></hi>, who asked for half cash but <hi rendition="#u">no security</hi> for the other half. I must now await a reply from
                    Stephenson &amp; Blake. Considering my influence and fair proposals, it is to
                    say the least, very suspicious that the type Founders should be so strict in
                    their terms <hi rendition="#u">with me</hi>. I know <pb/> that it is quite usual
                    for them to grant <hi rendition="#u">12</hi> and <hi rendition="#u">18 months
                        accommodation</hi> and to my own knowledge dozens of papers in Ireland were
                    started under such circumstances. Type is not <choice>
                        <sic>consummable</sic>
                        <corr cert="high">consumable</corr>
                    </choice> as paper and other articles are, and if good, though second hand, will
                    fetch a high price. For example, my materials, including type cases, chases,
                    presses, <hi rendition="#u">machine</hi> etc would amount to about £ 250. The
                        <hi rendition="#u">machine</hi> (value about £ 80 or £ 90) if carefully
                    used, would be just as valuable in 18 months as on the days it was purchased and
                    I may say the same of the presses, frames etc. At the end of 12 months the type
                    (in a weekly paper like mine) would be almost as good but would not, of course
                    fetch as high a price as new type. There are two persons in London, who know of
                    my intention to start a paper and I suspect <pb/> both these persons for
                    communicating with the Founders to my injury. One of them would, I know,
                    willingly pay money to prevent the paper coming out and the other I strongly
                    suspect to be in the pay of the police. Of one thing <hi rendition="#u">I am
                        certain</hi>, it was either or both of these persons who communicated the
                        “<hi rendition="#u">unfavorable information</hi>” to <orgName ref="https://megadigital.bbaw.de/M4593814">Miller &amp; Richard</orgName>s. However I <hi rendition="#u">must</hi> and
                        <hi rendition="#u">will succeed</hi> as there was never such a grand
                    opportunity and indeed never such a real necessity for a bold and honest organ.
                    Up to this I have only communicated with five Founders and I daresay there are
                    at least 20 more in London. Surely I must succeed with some of those and
                    directly too. £ 250 to be paid in these 12 months would <pb/> only be about £ 5
                    per week and the paper income alone, not to speak of the jobbing, which would be
                    very considerable, would easily enable me to pay that off. It is likely that I
                    will hear from Sheffield tomorrow when I will instantly write you. I suppose you
                    got the benefit of a drenching, going home last night. I did as I lost the last
                    train at Ludgate. </p>
                <closer sameAs="MBUnterschrift"><salute>With kindest wishes from <persName ref="https://megadigital.bbaw.de/M7908845">my wife</persName> &amp; self to you and
                            <persName ref="https://megadigital.bbaw.de/M0005864 http://viaf.org/viaf/5492147665828360670003">M<hi rendition="#sup">rs</hi> <expan resp="editor" sameAs="dottet_underline">E<ex>ngels</ex></expan></persName>.</salute><signed>I am My dear Engels<lb/>Always faithfully Yours<lb/>J P M<hi rendition="#sup">c</hi>Donnell</signed></closer>
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                        <lb/>P.S. I have just received a bundle of papers, of the <hi rendition="#u">usual kind</hi>, from <persName ref="https://megadigital.bbaw.de/M8837517 https://d-nb.info/gnd/117634557">G. F. Train</persName>
                        at Omaha. </p>
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