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                <title><idno>504</idno>Joseph Patrick McDonnell an Friedrich Engels in London.
                    London, Montag, 11. September 1871</title>
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                        <surname>Lindenberg</surname>
                        <forename>Thomas</forename>
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                    <persName>
                        <surname>Lura</surname>
                        <forename>Caroline</forename>
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            <publicationStmt><publisher><ref target="https://www.bbaw.de">Berlin-Brandenburgische Akademie der Wissenschaften</ref></publisher><pubPlace ref="https://www.geonames.org/2950159">Berlin</pubPlace><availability><licence target="https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/4.0/">Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike 4.0 International (CC BY-SA 4.0)</licence></availability><idno type="URLWeb">https://megadigital.bbaw.de/</idno><idno type="URLXML">https://megadigital.bbaw.de/.xml</idno></publicationStmt>
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                        <collection>Marx-Engels-Nachlass</collection>
                        <idno><idno type="shelfmark">L 3660 /L V 479. Fotosign. 8193a–b
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                        <p>Soweit aus der Fotokopie zu ersehen ist, besteht der Brief aus einem
                            Bogen weißem Papier. Wasserzeichen: „<hi rendition="#mPrint">Joynson /
                                1871</hi>“. McDonnell hat alle vier Seiten vollständig beschrieben,
                            die dritte Seite quer. Schreibmaterial: schwarze Tinte (leicht
                            ausgeblichen).</p>
                        <p>Archivsignatur des SPD-Archivs auf der ersten Seite: „Ⅱ 21 L 24“
                            (Bleistift).</p>
                        <p>Von unbekannter Hand: Vermerk „Private“ oben links (Tinte?) sowie
                            Nummerierung
                            „2179“
                            (Bleistift) rechts oben auf der ersten Seite.</p>
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                    <persName ref="https://megadigital.bbaw.de/M0001917 http://d-nb.info/gnd/118530380">Friedrich Engels</persName>
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                <note>Zur Datierung: Der Brief steht im Zusammenhang mit <ref target="https://megadigital.bbaw.de/M2566830">McDonnells
                        Brief an Engels vom 7. September 1871</ref>. Der
                    darauffolgende Montag (s. „Monday Evening“) fiel auf den 11. September 1871. </note>
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                <opener><dateline sameAs="MBDatumszeile"><pb/> 8 Southboro Terrace, Carlton Grove<lb/>Peckham. Monday
                        Evening</dateline><salute sameAs="MBAnrede">My
                        dear Engels</salute></opener>
                <p rend="MBTextOhneEinzug" style="text-align: justify; ">I was disappointed at not
                    seing you on Saturday evening as I wanted to speak with you on a matter of much
                    importance to myself and the good cause. I will now however, communicate as
                    briefly as possible the nature of the service I want you to render me. The
                    printer with whom I made arrangements for the printing of my proposed
                    paper
                    refused to do it, at the eleventh <unclear reason="illegible" cert="high">hour</unclear> on account of the <unclear reason="illegible" cert="high">politics</unclear> which I told him it would preach. I too well knew that
                    this objection would be raised by nearly all the printers <pb/> to whom I might
                    apply and I therefore resolved to make an effort to get type, machine etc so
                    that I might be the owner of a really independent paper and also realize
                    handsome profits by a General Printing Establishment. To do this, however, there
                    is also trouble. I have had an interview this evening with the representative of
                    Messrs
                        “<orgName ref="https://megadigital.bbaw.de/M8337977">Reed and Fox</orgName>” the type Founders and he
                    informed me that to start such a paper as I proposed and to establish a General
                    printing office, it would require about £ 150. worth of type independent of the
                    press. Of course, to purchase such a quantity of type etc is altogether beyond
                    my power at the present time but with a paper at my command and the general
                    business by which I can realize large profits I would be able in 6 months to pay
                    some of the
                    a/c
                    and the entire of it in 12 months. </p>
                <p rend="MBTextOhneEinzug" style="text-align: justify; "><pb/> I propose to do my
                    printing out here so as not to increase my expenses and to take a small
                    publishing office in Fleet Street. There is now no really Irish Republican paper
                    in the field and there is the brightest prospect for mine. However you can
                    easily guess all this. It is usual for the type people to give 6 and 12 months
                    credit but they must of course know something about the person with whom they
                    transact business </p>
                <p rend="MBTextOhneEinzug" style="text-align: justify; ">I therefore took the
                    liberty of giving <hi rendition="#u">you</hi> and M<hi rendition="#sup">r</hi> <persName ref="https://megadigital.bbaw.de/M1507271">D J Rearden</persName> of 92 Piccadilly as
                        <hi rendition="#u">references</hi> also <persName ref="https://megadigital.bbaw.de/M0004433">James
                        Daly</persName>. I did not like to speak of my influence etc but preferred
                    leaving that task to my friends and I kn<unclear reason="illegible" cert="high">o</unclear>w they will do me justice. I said I was known <hi rendition="#u">for years</hi> to the <hi rendition="#u">references</hi> as I am
                    undoubtedly to James Daly &amp; M<hi rendition="#sup">r</hi> Rearden and to you
                    by repute. I offered several other names but he was content with the three. <ref xml:id="c640c89c-d816-48fa-80c8-9cd816b8fa54" corresp="#c88f978d-1f62-4ab8-8f97-8d1f622ab84e" type="editorialNote">You may not be called upon at all but if you are I
                            leave it in your hands to give me a high <pb/> character and to assure
                            them that my paper and general business have every prospect of
                            success</ref><note xml:id="c88f978d-1f62-4ab8-8f97-8d1f622ab84e" corresp="#c640c89c-d816-48fa-80c8-9cd816b8fa54" type="editorial">Siehe <ref target="https://megadigital.bbaw.de/M3670664">Miller &amp; Richard an Engel, 9.9.1871</ref> und <ref target="https://megadigital.bbaw.de/M3621118">Engels an Miller &amp; Richard, 9.9.1871
                                (Entwurf)</ref>.</note>. You will understand perfectly that it
                    is merely as a reference I have given you but your good word or M<hi rendition="#sup">r</hi> Reardens may win success for me in this matter. I
                    did not tell him that I was <expan resp="editor" sameAs="dottet_underline">Sec<ex>retary</ex></expan> for Ireland in the <orgName ref="https://megadigital.bbaw.de/M0004811 https://d-nb.info/gnd/503624-0">International</orgName> but you may. I fear that Daly has not yet returned
                    to his office</p>
                <p rend="MBTextOhneEinzug" style="text-align: justify; ">If you are waited upon it
                    is likely <hi rendition="#u">to be to morrow</hi>. I expect to get a final
                    answer from them on Wednesday. If successful I will be all right, if not I will
                    not try the matter further</p>
                <p rend="MBTextOhneEinzug" style="text-align: justify; ">I leave myself, however in
                    your hands. </p>
                <p rend="MBTextOhneEinzug" style="text-align: justify; ">I hope to meet you tomorrow
                    night at the Council at <hi rendition="#u">7 o’clock</hi> as the sub <expan resp="editor" sameAs="dottet_underline">Com<ex>mi</ex>tte</expan><ex>e</ex>
                    will meet at that hour</p>
                <closer sameAs="MBUnterschrift"><salute>With kind wishes from <persName ref="https://megadigital.bbaw.de/M7908845">wife</persName> &amp; self to you and
                            <persName ref="https://megadigital.bbaw.de/M0005864 http://viaf.org/viaf/5492147665828360670003">M<hi rendition="#sup">rs</hi> Engels</persName>
                        and apologizing for this trouble</salute><signed>I am always your truly<lb/>J P M<hi rendition="#sup">c</hi>Donnell</signed> </closer>
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